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Ikmaak: added name discussion

2025-01-13T11:53:12Z

added name discussion

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	<jeti1> the logo and event pages have it as FHB		<jeti1> the logo and event pages have it as FHB
	<jeti1> I would say if it's Food Hacking Base it's most logical that the abbreviation is also in caps		<jeti1> I would say if it's Food Hacking Base it's most logical that the abbreviation is also in caps
			<x378> FHB indeed shows that it’s an abbreviation for something.
			<algoldor60> ikmaak jeti1 x378 For me it is more about if I can keep writing fhb when I do the texts and stuff. I personally prefer small letters for the abbreviations but if others would like to use and display big ones it is fine with me. However when I write, I would like keep to fhb because it is comfy, that is what I'm after.

Ikmaak at 15:14, 10 January 2025

2025-01-10T15:14:12Z

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	<@ikmaak> we could just use a different capitalization, like FHb, fHb or fhB, maybe search engines notice :P (no real opinion on these, just providing options)		<@ikmaak> we could just use a different capitalization, like FHb, fHb or fhB, maybe search engines notice :P (no real opinion on these, just providing options)
	<algoldor60> ikmaak Well I went by simplicity of writing, I use most of the abbreviations in small letters. It may cause sometimes a confusion, you right there, I'm just kind of lazy with that way. So my preference would be fhb, that would be my take.		<algoldor60> ikmaak Well I went by simplicity of writing, I use most of the abbreviations in small letters. It may cause sometimes a confusion, you right there, I'm just kind of lazy with that way. So my preference would be fhb, that would be my take.
			<jeti1> the logo and event pages have it as FHB
			<jeti1> I would say if it's Food Hacking Base it's most logical that the abbreviation is also in caps

Ikmaak: added name discussion

2025-01-10T14:32:06Z

added name discussion

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	2025-01-09 Question: All wikipage names are very ad-hoc, and follow no real pattern. Should we keep pages like this, or rename them all to clear page names? Redirects can make sure the links still work.		2025-01-09 Question: All wikipage names are very ad-hoc, and follow no real pattern. Should we keep pages like this, or rename them all to clear page names? Redirects can make sure the links still work.
			<algoldor60> ikmaak I do not understand the "ad-hoc" wiki names without patter. For the last years we try to use the same system for events like for example https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Fhb_37c3
			<algoldor60> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Kefir_making_37c3
			<@ikmaak> if you see the all-pages list, you will see what i mean https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Special:AllPages
			<@ikmaak> the standard wiki way of making links for subpages is Fhb_37c3/Kefir_Making
			<@ikmaak> in the wiki we also historically uses an Events: namespace, that would make it Events:Fhb_37c3/Kefir_Making
			<@ikmaak> but i think it would be better to make a redirect from Events: pages, so that it would have a Events:Fhb_37c3 redirect to Fhb_37c3, and subpages as Fhb_37c3/Kefir_Making
			<algoldor60> I hope I'm fallowing sufficiently.
			<algoldor60> It sounds to me more organized as you write it and along the lines where we want to go. I know it is not important but we can use just small letters in the names, right?
			<algoldor60> links I mean
			<@ikmaak> we can use small and big letters how we like it, we just have to decide on how to do it.
			<@ikmaak> but it is good to be consistent. Are we FHB, Fhb, fhb? And also foodhackingbase, Foodhackingbase, FoodhackingBase FoodHackingBase?
			<algoldor60> Food Hacking Base is the original name I would prefer that, fhb the abbreviation. Foodhackingbase we used to be short and online in the links if not using fhb
			<@ikmaak> fhb in all small letters as the abbreviation makes the combination not stand out in a sentence and does not show it is a name. On its own it also nicer in small, but in sentences it might accidentally remove attention.
			<@ikmaak> On its own I also think it aesthetically better in non-capitals, but in sentences it might accidentally remove attention.
			<@ikmaak> we could just use a different capitalization, like FHb, fHb or fhB, maybe search engines notice :P (no real opinion on these, just providing options)
			<algoldor60> ikmaak Well I went by simplicity of writing, I use most of the abbreviations in small letters. It may cause sometimes a confusion, you right there, I'm just kind of lazy with that way. So my preference would be fhb, that would be my take.

Ikmaak: Added question

2025-01-09T21:12:00Z

Added question

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	# We could use login info for the web site at Ghandi to change the theme, apples, etc.		# We could use login info for the web site at Ghandi to change the theme, apples, etc.
	# Do we know who has the git for the website? who makes backups?		# Do we know who has the git for the website? who makes backups?

			2025-01-09 Question: All wikipage names are very ad-hoc, and follow no real pattern. Should we keep pages like this, or rename them all to clear page names? Redirects can make sure the links still work.

Ikmaak: added info

2025-01-09T10:46:46Z

added info

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	-<jeti> maybe use a template for recipes, for example https://www.cookipedia.co.uk/recipes_wiki/How_to_use_the_recipe_builder_templates		-<jeti> maybe use a template for recipes, for example https://www.cookipedia.co.uk/recipes_wiki/How_to_use_the_recipe_builder_templates
	-<jglauche> I don't like the styles and the apples as list items		-<jglauche> I don't like the styles and the apples as list items
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			# Could someone check this page for correctness? https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Food_Hacking_Base:Administration
			# The page is 10 years old, and need some update and/or clarification.
			-<algoldor60> and we are no longer at Uberspace but completely at Ghandi
			# We could use login info for the web site at Ghandi to change the theme, apples, etc.
			# Do we know who has the git for the website? who makes backups?

Jeti at 18:54, 7 January 2025

2025-01-07T18:54:22Z

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	3: what are the issues of our current system		3: what are the issues of our current system
			-<jeti> except for the event pages not really updated, most of the links on the start page point to wrong/outdated information

	4: Who do we want to prioritize with our information? Event visitors, Participants, Web info seekers? any other options?		4: Who do we want to prioritize with our information? Event visitors, Participants, Web info seekers? any other options?
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	7: Currently we use a 2010 theme, that has updated to a 2022 version. Do we want this to update too? (you can test for yourself by choosing your personal default on your preference page) It is likely a drop-in change to the LocalSettings.php file.		7: Currently we use a 2010 theme, that has updated to a 2022 version. Do we want this to update too? (you can test for yourself by choosing your personal default on your preference page) It is likely a drop-in change to the LocalSettings.php file.


			8: Layout of event pages
			Event pages are currently a copy of the previous one, should we make a new template for what should be on them
			-<jeti> Section header link now to pages which aren't really update for events, we should make a generic page for them, or update them for every event if they are relevant

	Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.		Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.

Jeti at 18:44, 7 January 2025

2025-01-07T18:44:37Z

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	6: What do we want to do with the present information, update it, or preserve as is without updates.		6: What do we want to do with the present information, update it, or preserve as is without updates.
			-<jeti> Probably leave the historical event pages as is, update only the current info.

	7: Currently we use a 2010 theme, that has updated to a 2022 version. Do we want this to update too? (you can test for yourself by choosing your personal default on your preference page) It is likely a drop-in change to the LocalSettings.php file.		7: Currently we use a 2010 theme, that has updated to a 2022 version. Do we want this to update too? (you can test for yourself by choosing your personal default on your preference page) It is likely a drop-in change to the LocalSettings.php file.

Jeti at 18:37, 7 January 2025

2025-01-07T18:37:15Z

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	-<jglauche> I can answer 4: Event visitors and Workshop Participants, before, during and after the event (I've been bad at it, still need to copy a few recepies for my workshop that worked) and ideally also post project descriptions		-<jglauche> I can answer 4: Event visitors and Workshop Participants, before, during and after the event (I've been bad at it, still need to copy a few recepies for my workshop that worked) and ideally also post project descriptions

			-<jeti> I see two main uses cases
			- During events, info for people wanting to do workshops / help
			- In general information about FHB so people know what it is


	5: any other issues to take care of?		5: any other issues to take care of?
			-<jeti> copying contents between event wiki and FHB wiki during events is annoying, maybe use one of the plugins from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_import to automate

	6: What do we want to do with the present information, update it, or preserve as is without updates.		6: What do we want to do with the present information, update it, or preserve as is without updates.
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	Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.		Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.
	-~~,jeti1~~> I wonder if we shouldn't make it a bit wider than only the wiki, more about FHB media strategy I think we now have our wiki, event wikis, maillist, facebook seems the Facebook posts from last year only reach about 30 people so I wonder how useful those are. probably should move to mastodon for that~~, at least the ccc people are there~~
			-<jeti> I wonder if we shouldn't make it a bit wider than only the wiki, more about FHB media strategy I think we now have our wiki, event wikis, maillist, facebook seems the Facebook posts from last year only reach about 30 people so I wonder how useful those are. probably should move to mastodon for that

	-<jglauche> the FHB wiki makes formatting things really hard		-<jglauche> the FHB wiki makes formatting things really hard
			-<jeti> maybe use a template for recipes, for example https://www.cookipedia.co.uk/recipes_wiki/How_to_use_the_recipe_builder_templates
	-<jglauche> I don't like the styles and the apples as list items		-<jglauche> I don't like the styles and the apples as list items

Ikmaak: more updates

2025-01-07T18:04:58Z

more updates

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	1: What would we like the FHB wiki to be like		1: What would we like the FHB wiki to be like
	-~~ikmaak~~: I would like it to be a site that helps Event Participants find good info on what FHB does, and how they can add to the joy. Before, during and after. Also I would like it to be easy to plan for new events, and make it easy for event info to be added to the cooperation options they offer. Also it would be good to have a good way to present our history and information.		-[[User:Ikmaak\|Ikmaak]] I would like it to be a site that helps Event Participants find good info on what FHB does, and how they can add to the joy. Before, during and after. Also I would like it to be easy to plan for new events, and make it easy for event info to be added to the cooperation options they offer. Also it would be good to have a good way to present our history and information.

	2: What is missing / great in the current wiki.		2: What is missing / great in the current wiki.
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	4: Who do we want to prioritize with our information? Event visitors, Participants, Web info seekers? any other options?		4: Who do we want to prioritize with our information? Event visitors, Participants, Web info seekers? any other options?

	-jglauche: I can answer 4: Event visitors and Workshop Participants, before, during and after the event (I've been bad at it, still need to copy a few recepies for my workshop that worked) and ideally also post project descriptions		-<jglauche> I can answer 4: Event visitors and Workshop Participants, before, during and after the event (I've been bad at it, still need to copy a few recepies for my workshop that worked) and ideally also post project descriptions

	5: any other issues to take care of?		5: any other issues to take care of?
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	Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.		Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.
			-,jeti1> I wonder if we shouldn't make it a bit wider than only the wiki, more about FHB media strategy I think we now have our wiki, event wikis, maillist, facebook seems the Facebook posts from last year only reach about 30 people so I wonder how useful those are. probably should move to mastodon for that, at least the ccc people are there

			-<jglauche> the FHB wiki makes formatting things really hard
			-<jglauche> I don't like the styles and the apples as list items

Ikmaak: added theme question

2025-01-07T16:14:53Z

added theme question

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	6: What do we want to do with the present information, update it, or preserve as is without updates.		6: What do we want to do with the present information, update it, or preserve as is without updates.

			7: Currently we use a 2010 theme, that has updated to a 2022 version. Do we want this to update too? (you can test for yourself by choosing your personal default on your preference page) It is likely a drop-in change to the LocalSettings.php file.

	Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.		Please add your info, and add questions as needed. The more info we have, the better the wiki can become.